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The Religion section is misleading and should be removed

Hello, first time editing so please go easy on me.

I believe that there are multiple issues with the Religion section

The initial sentence states that data is based on 2010 but, upon looking at references provided, it is clear that this statement is false. We should make clear that this is not true for all of the statistics provided
The figure for the number of Christians, 909,930, has no source.
It is not clear where the number 84.5% was derived from. If we reverse engineer the population from this percentage, Marseille should have a population of 1,076,840. Scrolling up to the previous section we can see that according to the INSEE, in 2010 the population was 850,726 for Marseille or 1,804,777 for the Marseille metropolitan area. Something doesn't add up
The source for the Christian demographic statistics leads to a page that doesn't have any statistics for the year 2010. The closest year with data is 2013 and only has statistics for Catholic Christians. That makes the value of 68.5% unreliable. If someone did a linear projection from the year 2004 (the closest earlier year), this should be made explicit.
On the source website for Christian Catholics the value provided for 2013 is 715,000 out of a total population of 1,048,521. This would make the percentage of Catholics 68.2% and not the stated 68.5% If a projection was done from the year 2004, this should be made explicit.
There is no source provided for the Armenian Apostolic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox statistics. They should be removed.
The statistics for the Muslim population is based on a book called The Burdens of Brotherhood: Jews and Muslims from North Africa to France. After reading the cited page, the author of the aforementioned book doesn't cite the source for the claim that there are 200,000 Muslims in Marseille. The other source The European Culture Area: A Systematic Geography makes no mention of Marseille on page 11 (as cited). It is also suspicious that both of the books cite page 11 as the source of their statistic.
There is no source for the non-religious demographic statistic
The Jewish demographic statistic cites the same dubious source as the Muslim demographic.
Hindu demographic statistic has no source
The Buddhist demographic statistic links to a dead webpage and, as such, cannot be used as a reliable source.

On top of all of these issues, it is never explicitly stated whether these percentages (like 14.5% for the non-religious demographic) are based on the entire population of Marseille, the population of Marseille metropolitan area, or some other subset of the French population. This needs to be made more explicit.

I suggest the Religion section be removed until more factual information is collected. At the moment the information seems fragmented and unreliable.

Much appreciate input. Kangtug (talk) 05:30, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]